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The shooting took place at dusk on this two-lane road in North Tulsa, in a predominantly African-American area. I say, "Hey, man, take your hands outta your pockets. " And when I tell him to take his hands out of his pockets, he just immediately puts 'em in the air. Betty Shelby: Well, what's goin' through my mind is what I've experienced before. Betty Shelby: I'm thinking he's calculating how he can get to his vehicle to get whatever weapon it is that he's going to get because he didn't find it in his pocket.